While there's no doubt the .44 Rem Mag puts a ton more speed and energy downrange, that performance comes with a price. I believe the man sitting on the car bumper next to Elmer Keith is Roy Weatherby. The shorter case of .44 Special can cause feeding issues in some .44 Magnum carbines (Winchesters are said to be the most prone) and not all loads will shoot to the sights. 44 S&W Russian. VTI might have some and could use 44R. I don't paint bullets. Powered by Invision Community. (I) Giveaway ends September 30, 2022. Freelance double-nought spy Colt and everyone else that makes single actions frequently offer dual cylinder models in .44/40 and .44 Special. Note: This information comes from the manufacturer and is for informational purposes only. Velocity changed also to nominal 1,470 fps. I know 18 such rounds came with my first S&W .44 Magnum in 1968. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). Handloading .44 Russian is a joy. Loading the 44 russian may need a new die or two. I've been loading the 240gr over 5.5grs TiteGroup for my buddy for over 15yrs. starline has the russian, special, and mag brass all in stock. Colt chambered the Single Action Army in .44 Russian and after the .44 Special arrived they chambered for it too, marking the barrel: Russian and S&W Special .44. Colt also chambered a very few of their Model 1878 Double Action sixguns in .44 Russian and S&W, even though the Triple-Lock debuted in .44 Special, apparently had to take care of some diehards and thus a few Triple-Locks are also found chambered in .44 Russian. Sidebar: TK will cut your .44 Magnum for moon clips. Logged No substitutions or transfers to a third party are allowed. The .44 Mag remains one of the most popular big-bore cartridges. They called themselves the .44 Associates, and they worked up hot loads of .44 Special for various purposes. HANDGUN. (II) Limit one entry per household. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Generally defined as how effectively the round can terminate a threat or drop a game animal, stopping power is a complicated subject. The .44 Russian's development dates back to 1870, when Russian General Alexander Gorloff, stationed at the U.S. Embassy in Washington D.C., approached Smith & Wesson regarding the possibility of purchasing a large quantity of its Model 3 revolvers for the Imperial Russian Army. For hire political consultant Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). So, S&W remodeled the .44 Henry cartridge to centerfire ignition and called it .44/100. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. If recoil is a turn-off, the .44 Spl is probably the better option. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. To ensure we had as close to an apples-to-apples comparison as possible, we looked at Noslers load data. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. A little-known fact is S&W sold about a quarter million .44s to the Russian Government. However, with a well-placed shot, the animal will eventually succumb to blood loss. RN bullets over 3.8 grs. 44-40 or 44WCF are larger diameter cases like 45 Colt cases then bottle necked to a .427 bullet. The .44 Magnum is more popular for metallic silhouette shooting (such as IMSSU events) given the flatter trajectory and greater power. Police departments have also been ditching .40 S&W nationwide (partially) for the same reason over the last 20 years in favor of 9mm. The most accurate bullet Ive found in this .44 Russian is the RCBS #44-200CM over 5.0 grs. The choice is simple: Buy the .44 Magnum..Hand load to .22 Special specs. A First-Year Magnum: Shooting The S&W "Pre-29" by JUSTIN DYAL; Contact; Donate; Eye Candy for the Gentlemen out there; How to start a career in Education Part One; N.S.F.W. Hi, I have a .44 magnum carbine and I love it! Compared to the hotrod .44 Magnum, the Special delivers fairly sluggish speeds. S&W chambered the Model #3 Russian and the New Model #3, both single action top-breaks, in .44 Russian. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. I don't recall him saying if he was able to reload those cases or not. 30 Super Carry; 429 DE Magnum; 8mm Lebel; 9x21mm IMI; 9x23 Win . The .44 Mag. Sign-up now to get more revolver content every Wednesday! Dash Caliber Like the Russian it can be used in a 44 mag in case . 3.5 to 3.6 grains of Red Dot or Bullseye powder achieves this with very good accuracy. SASS has degenerated into a game of dress up for old baby boomers. This can be an expensive proposition when you consider the expense of the necessary firearms. The Flying Ashtray was, is and will always be the sadly discontinued #4477 Speer 200g JHP. May 23, 2013 North country gal said: Different cartridge length. Smith & Wesson, Colt, Ruger, Korth, Taurusthe list goes on. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. Experimenters such as Elmer Keith proved that a heavily loaded .44 Special was very effective on big game. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. And the .455 Webley should be .455 Webley Way Short and a .450 Webley would be How in the world do you have any room for the daggone powder and a bullet Short Short. I use an old .44 Special expanding die and purchased a .44 Russian seating die. In a self-defense situation, where your children are sleeping on the other side of the wall behind the bad guy, too much penetration can have fatal consequences. Ammo: Elk, Deer And Everything Else, 10 Best Long-Range Cartridges of All Time (2023), 8 On-Target Concealed Carry Insurance Options (2022), 10 Affordable Double-Barrel Shotgun Options (2022), Best AR-15 Options For Any Budget And Buyers Guide (2022), Best Concealed Carry Handguns For Women (2022). The .44 Mag is a close- to mid-range cartridge. The 44 Special has a parent case of .44 Russian, bullet diameter of .429 inches(10.9 Millimeters), neck diameter of.457 inches(11.6 Millimeters), base diameter of .457 inches (11.6 Millimeters) , and length of 1.615 inches(41.0 Millimeters). With Lymans RN bullets 4.2 grs. Above: Samples of revolvers chambered for all three .44s. One new winner* is announced every week! Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. They chambered just fine. The cartridge remains popular in the United States and many rounds like the 44 Special and 44 Magnum were directly influenced by it. and .44 Magnum and refer to the Russian as the .44 Short. Should I? The first .44 Magnum I had was a 4 Model 29 in the late 1970s. Even the old gunfightin' gun writers of the time often acknowledged that .44 Magnum had too much kick. Stand these two cartridges side by side, and the differences in dimensions seem insignificant. My comment is that .44 mag cartridges dont have to be loaded to maximum. (IV) Winners must undergo a background check and comply with all other federal, state and local laws. and the case is the same outside diameter. (II) Limit one entry per household. They brought the gp100 in 44 spl back a few years ago. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. Cowboy load for .44 Magnum I started shooting with a local Cowboy Action Shooting club several months ago. Bullseye shooters of the day flocked to this gun like flies to honey. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. check out the. Is it absolutely necessary to have a .44 Russian chambered cylinder or will the .44 Special work just fine with Russian brass? No purchase necessary. Contest void where prohibited by law. You may be thinking of the 44 Magnum or the 44 Special, they will both chamber the 44 Russian, as it is the parent round of both. No purchase necessary. God above all but I must admit the residing place for him must be in the heart of my wife and daughters. The 44 Magnum can be a real beast, loud blast and heavy recoil. Gorloff correctly recognized that such ammunition tends to pick up debris and contaminants which erode the bore when fired, so a qualification of the purchase contract was that Smith & Wesson develop an internally lubricated version of their .44 round. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM May/June 2023, P.O. Deployed military should use stateside address. However, this monster speed demon works well for everything from elk to black bear to two-legged predators. Bill Jordan said as much in his book No Second Place Winner; as did fellow Border Patrolman Skeeter Skelton. The original load of .44 Russian was a 246-grain, .426-inch bullet seated on 23 grains of black powder. However, Uberti offers an excellent replica of the Model #3 Russian chambered in .44 Russian which is safe with reasonable smokeless loads. Because the .44 Mag cruises about 1.5 times faster than the .44 Special, it spends less time getting to the target. The larger one accepted the case, the smaller one at the front of the chamber accepted the bullet. Stopping power is one of those terms that gets tossed around as shooters try to qualify the effectiveness of certain cartridges. Smith & Wesson developed a .44 frame to contain a power-house cartridge, yet retain the level of accuracy demanded by competitive target shooters. [2] As a result of these changes, the .44 Russian generated a much higher chamber pressure of 12,000 copper units of pressure (CUP) compared to the older .44 American round, which generated only 6,0008,000 CUP. The cartridge debuted in 1955 and was followed by the release of the first two guns chambered for it: the S&W .44 Magnum (later rechristened as the Model 29) and the Ruger Blackhawk. Its recognizable by a large thumb screw on the topstrap. Both cartridges were originally designed for big bore revolvers. Two of those revolvers ended up in this camp, a Richards Type II conversion with a 5" barrel and the Richards-Mason conversion with an 8" barrel. Ruger offers a couple of 5-shot GP100 models as well as the Blackhawk Bisley in .44 Special, the latter being a subtle nod to Elmer Keith's Revolver No. When he got to the unloading table he realized what he'd done we all got a good laugh. The .44 Russian still provides much pleasurable shooting. Based on the black-powder .44 Smith & Wesson Russian, the Special featured the newest, state-of-the-art smokeless powder. [4], The .44 Russian was the parent cartridge for the .44 Special introduced in 1907, which in turn was the parent to the .44 Magnum in 1956.[2]. Can a 44 magnum shoot 44 Special? kids that hunt and fish dont mug old ladies, I have a couple of questions about your load Do you lube the round balls at all What is your over all length And is there any crimp involved. It can increase the muzzle velocity of a 200-grain JHP by 150%. 300 Win Mag vs 338 Win Mag vs 338 Lapua Mag, 450 Bushmaster vs 458 SOCOM vs 50 Beowulf. The .44 Magnum is more popular for metallic silhouette shooting (such as IMSSU events) given the flatter trajectory and greater power. Functions perfectly in his VAQUERO'S & WIN 94. The .44 Remington Magnum (better known as simply .44 Mag) and .44 Smith & Wesson Special (also called .44 S&W Special, .44 Special, and .44 Spl) actually have more similarities than differences. Family. A 5-shot Charter Arms Bulldog Pug .44Spl is much easier to carry than a 4in S&W N frame. It is a single shot proposition. .44 Magnum ammo was designed by firearm enthusiast Elmer Keith. SWC with a gas check. The extra case space holds slightly more powder, and slightly more powder creates more pressure. Mine currently are the RCBS "cowboy" style with carbide sizing die and case mouth belling die with plug diameter of .426 inch. Your load my be alright for ''tinking" those GIGANTIC STEEL PLATES at 20ft. Their Double Action top-breaks were mostly chambered in .44 Russian too. In the mid-1950s, Keith partnered with the Remington cartridge company to create the .44 Remington Magnum, which sat a 260-grain bullet in a longer case and propelled it to 1,200 fps or higher. The cartridge reached its prime in the 1950s, when the father of big-bore hand gunning, Keith Elmer, experimented with hotter loads and wadcutter projectiles. Its amazing what a mere 4.4 grains of extra case capacity can achieve. This evolutionary improvement became an archetype, influencing future cartridge designs. Handloaders can choose from almost every bullet style under the sun. Of course you can shoot a shorter round in the same caliber. First, the Rossi is a very high-quality clone and performs every bit as well as an original Model 1892. I have a model 329 PD 44 magnum that I put a S&W stainless steel fluted cylinder on and removed the titanium one it came with. RN to 240-gr. However, it may be necessary to shorten a .44 Magnum/.44 Special expanding die as well as a seater/crimper die to be able to reach the relatively short .44 Russian case. Recreational Shooting. Both the Mag and the Special are used by serious bullseye competitors, which proves both are capable of consistent accuracy. Too much penetration in a densely populated area, or when loved ones may be on the other side of a door, can cause catastrophic collateral damage. While that might not seem like a lot, that additional powder produces faster velocities, flatter trajectories, and heftier downrange energy. RN to 240-gr. In our SDB we cannot use Lee dies OR regular Dillon dies. The non-necked design makes it a viable option for areas that restrict hunting with necked-down cartridges. of Trail Boss for around 650 fps. Mail-in entries accepted; send postcards (no envelopes) to: American Handgunner Magazine, GOM Concealed Carry 2023, P.O. However, the weight of the gun and the weight of the projectile its firing also affect the amount of recoil produced. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The bear, during the attack, moved from one hunter to the other, giving Doug the chance to access Reed's .44 magnum, that had been hung in a tree. (I) Giveaway ends May 31, 2023. There are many loads for both .44 Special and .44 Magnum that satisfy the FBI standard of 12 to 18 inches of penetration in ballistic gel through 4 layers of denim. Winners will be notified by certified mail on official letterhead. These cartridges had one thing in common, they all used bullets with two diameters. Doug shot the bear and stopped the attack. Great article, thanks! Cowboy life, Ballistic Research, Gunsmithing ,Shooting , Fishing, Hunting,Photography,etc. I miss shooting them but still have a box and a half sitting on my loading bench. The selection of .44-caliber bullets is vast, allowing plenty of load customization. While some shooters might dismiss the .44 Spl as outdated, this mild-recoiling big-bore cartridge has more to offer than feelings of nostalgia. Something's got to give. Winners must respond within 30 days of receiving notification or an alternate winner will be selected. Any discussion of magnums should pay homage to both of them. All entries must be received by giveaway end date. For loading I use Oregon Trails 225- and 240-gr. (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. FIOCCHI HERITAGE 44 S&W RUSSIAN 247 gr. Yes, the 44 Special can be applied in the 44 Magnum barrel with no . Velocity spreads were nearly even shooting both bullets with IMR Red. 416 Rem Mag; 44-40 Win; 416 Rigby; 416 Ruger; 444 Marlin; 45-60 WCF; 45-70 Government; 450 Bushmaster; . Velocity spreads with Titegroup shrank from 65 fps with RNFP bullets to 20 fps with wadcutters. [1] The .44 Russian design marked the first use of an internally lubricated bullet in modern firearm ammunition. Youll need to bust out your eyeglasses and a good ruler to measure the dimension variations. These were advertised as being chambered for the .44 Colt/Russian because they will also shoot the .44 Russian cartridges. A heavier handgun will produce less felt recoil, because the mass of the gun absorbs some of that rearward force. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. not. (III) Giveaway winner(s) chosen by random drawing. west of town, down along Muddy Creek, TX. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears. They were ballistic twins. I hav never understood the propensity for people to try the wrong cartridge in their firearms. VTI has Uberti 44 special cylinders for $110 each. been EDCing a Charter Arms 4 Bulldog for years. to improve it into the Model #3 Russian. And easy to carry too. Older black-powder ammunition was in the process of being converted to smokeless. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. The .44 Remington Magnum, also known as .44 Magnum or 10.9x33mmR (as it is known in unofficial metric designation), is a rimmed, large-bore cartridge originally designed for revolvers and quickly adopted for carbines and rifles.Despite the ".44" designation, guns chambered for the .44 Magnum round, and its parent, the .44 Special, use 0.429 in (10.9 mm) diameter bullets. Deployed military should use stateside address. Higher pressure generates more energy and pushes the bullet at a higher velocity. The .44 Spl also has a more limited ammo selection. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. You need to seriously look at shooting .44 spl in those revolvers. For close-range varmints and small game, the milder .44 Special works just fine. If you can reload them, put a hollowpoint or a wad cutter in there and let me know how it works. I was chambering .44 Russian in a 44-40 chamber, not .44 magnum or .44 Spl. Prizes will not be awarded if illegal in jurisdiction of winner(s). To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. and operating pressures between itself and it's predecessors. Below, from left of Universal for just under 760 fps and 1 groups. Giveaway prizes may have evidence of being test fired or exhibit minor handling marks. I once loaded a bunch of balloon head .44 Russian brass with the standard original load of 23.0 grains of black powder under a 250-gr. .44 Magnum revolvers, of course, will spoil you for choice. Posted: 12/7/2011 4:01:30 PM EST [#4] Quoted: I was hoping not to have to go the "try and see" route. Contest void where prohibited by law. Comfortable shoes. Less case volume. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. The Flying Ashtray was, is and will always be the sadly discontinued #4477 Speer 200g JHP. If you need to stretch the effective range of your pistol or wheel gun, youll want to have the .44 Mag on your side. (I) Giveaway ends March 31, 2023. 44 Special vs 44 Magnum: Caliber Comparison by Ammo.com. Employees and agents of Publishers Development Corp. are not eligible. Not only is the break-open design simple and safe, but the 44 magnum has very low recoil for the mass of the bullet with about 10-11 ft-lbs being about average. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Either way, HSM has you covered. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. I doubt if the round would even go off as the firing pin would hit off center. Single point sling is handy for the bush. No purchase necessary. View as Grid . JFKimmons and G&G aren't liable for it's misuse. I have a pair of Uberti 44WCF revos and purchased two 44 Special cylinders and fitted to these revolvers and to shoot 44 Russian. Most notable were humps at the top of Model #3s grips and odd-looking spurs extending from trigger guards. To protect the privacy and security of winners, names will not be made public. There are a few reproduction single-action revolvers in .44 Special as well, typically Bisley SAA clones. I drop-down to 3.5 grs. . Both cartridges still have their places when it comes to self-defense, hunting and sport shooting, but which one will be best for you depends on the respective threat, game or sport in question. However, you can shoot .44 Spl ammo in most .44 Magnum firearms. It amazes me how many shooters young and old talk about their .44 [] of Universal for just under 760 fps and 1 groups. If you have a .44 Mag, it can safely handle .44 Spl cartridges. Or is .44 Magnum the best cartridge in .44? that way. Box 1926, Escondido, CA 92033. An average 240-grain load of .44 Special has a maximum point blank range of around 80 yards on a six-inch target, while the same projectile loaded for .44 Magnum can extend that to 120 yards. Using a .44 special case the 800fps load requires 5.5 gr of Bullseye. It is also easy to find fresh brass for both cartridges. Get 12 Issues a year of the country's best firearms writing. Taming its recoil takes some serious effort. Even for someone of that skill level, his competition handguns are usually chambered for .38/.357 or 9mm. Deployed military should use stateside address. Available bullet weights range from a relatively meager 180 grains to a super weighty 300 grains. I watched a fellow cowboy shoot the wrong undersized cartridge in his pistols, they all went bang but he didn't hit any steel. This gives .44 Mag an edge in accuracy over .44 Special in some weapons, but the reality is that the difference will likely be imperceivable to most shooters. Lots of folks said "ohh, bad juju" but he says he had no problems. Both are good shooters with easy to handle recoil in my old hands. The 44 Russian fired a 246gr bullet at 750fps. So, yes, the Special is definitely a viable defensive cartridge. BTW, before the Magnum was even thought of the .44 S&W Special was the Bullseye Competition Cartridge of Choice for many years. Taurus - 44SS8 8.375in 44 Magnum Stainless 6RD. I got a stainless Non fluted cylinder gp100 then found a blued 5 inch on CDNN for $500. No purchase necessary. The Russian Army ended up ordering over 100,000 of these guns, chambered for the new "inside lubricated" .44 Russian cartridge. View as Grid . Associated taxes and fees will be the responsibility of the winner. Yup and yup. Without a doubt this is the finest brass on the market. Hefty recoil requires a little extra recovery effort. Available testing, such as Dr. Gary K. Roberts' data on AR15.com, indicates that .44 Special performs best from a 4-inch (or longer) barrel, and the light-for-caliber, fast-expanding (JHP) loads in .44 Magnum are the best choice for personal defense against humans in that caliber. In time it set many records, eventually becoming known as an established target round,[1] enabling skilled shooters to achieve 3-inch (76mm) groups at 50 yards (46m); notable for the time and still impressive today. 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